The 5 Lies and The 5 Hidden Truths of Sex & Porn Addiction

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Craig Perra:
You are listening to sex afflictions and porn addictions and I am your host Craig para from the website www.themindfulhabit.com I’m the founder of the Mindful Habit System and this is a podcast to help you create healthy sexuality and a great life and I am very, very excited for. I’m excited for every podcast. I’m excited for this one because I’ve got a very special guest with me. My brother from another mother is here and today George and I are going to be talking about the five lies and five hidden truths about recovery because if I’ve learned anything and helping people for the past eight years that things are not what they seem. And we’re going to cover what I hope is going to be some very interesting things today. But first, let me introduce my guest. George and I have been connected for almost seven years. George came to me at a terribly low point. Wife had left. On his mother’s couch. That’s been the theme, from the couch where it all started. And drugs porn. Now he’s a certified Mindful Habit Coach. He’s been one for five years. He’s an MSW candidate. Ultimately ended up divorced, did not save his relationship. So he brings that very, very powerful perspective to the Mindful Habit Program. George, welcome brother.

George Morning:
Thank you.  Thank you man. So glad to be here, brother. Thanks for having me man.

Craig Perra:
Well, listen, the Mindful Habit wouldn’t be what it is without you. And that is the God’s honest truth. See, because I got an eye for talent. I got to tell you, I got an eye for talent and I knew like this, like here I am, I’m talking to this guy, he’s at this low point and I just hear this passion. I could feel it, you know, you guys know I go off on my rants and my tangents and I could feel this man’s passion and I’m like, I didn’t know that we’d be working together, but I knew he’d be helping people. And so blessed to have him on our team. So, I love theme today, George, about the five lies and hidden truths about recovery because I think there’s a lot of bad information out there. I think there’s a lot of well-intentioned information that isn’t serving people. So let’s jump right in. Where do you want to start? Let’s go with the five lies and five hidden truths about recovery.

George Morning:
Absolutely. Let’s go ahead and break this down. Number five, for a men out there listening right now. Let’s start with the lie. What is the number five lie? That is because I was so selfish with my behaviors. Everything that I must do in my recovery must be that much selfless, meaning that I’m doing the recovery for my wife. I’m doing it for my kids. I’m doing it for my job and I got to tell your brothers that again, Craig mentioned him before, been working with you five years. I’ve been in recovery since June 27th of 2013.

In that time I have crossed that entire span span as well as a lot of other you guys have. I’m pretty sure a lot of you guys are watching right now because of what’s happening at home with your wife, with your kids. But the real truth about this is that this isn’t about you being less selfish in your recovery. I equate this a lot to being on a diet. If you went to your doctor and you was 500 pounds obese, there isn’t a single doctor on the planet that says because you ate so poorly in the past, now you have to stop eating or the next three months, nobody’s ever going to tell you that. The reality is that the same thing about your behaviors with recovery, the same things about your behaviors in your diet is that you need to keep a diet. Yes, it was unhealthy beforehand.

However, now you still need a diet. It just needs to be what? Healthy. Instead of the fried foods, the ice cream, you need carrots, celery, and tons of water. It’s about being healthy and we tend to lose that. Right when we’re starting out in recovery, you think necessity for everybody else. Listen, I’ve been there. Craig just told you guys, I’m a father of three kids. I am divorced right now. And as a matter of fact, one of the main proponents that they made me commit to being a part of the mine had a program for recovery was that, guess what I found in my oldest son’s phone at age 13 than I had in my laptop at age 33. When I’m getting ready to rip him a new one about what he’s doing, the reality is I was like, look, he learned this from me. So I now the initial call was, wow, I have to do this in order for him.

Craig Perra:
We’re going to come to the truth. I just want to crystallize this because this is so important. I tried to weed out men in my program who are doing it just for their, and there’s a reason why is because I don’t want to take someone’s money if it’s not going to work for them. And the chances of it working for that guy is it’s way, way, way less for a whole bunch of different reasons. And so the lie is because I was so selfish, because selfishness is what brought me here, I can’t be selfish going forward. We’re going to talk about the truth right now. This is one of my favorite ones. George, give us the truth please.

George Morning:
Here’s the truth guys The truth is you as an individual cannot control another person’s response to your behaviors, number one. And even more importantly, you can’t control how they’re going to manage their trauma. Our behavior brings about trauma in those that we love. So because you’re choosing to go about a certain course of life, now that doesn’t automatically mean that you have this giant ripple effect that, well, if I do this, then it benefits and I keep my wife and I keep my kids and I keep my job. The life is going to be how it’s going to be whether you’re in recovery, or you’re not in recovery. The only difference that we need to pay attention to is that can you approach recovery with the same energy that you had with your behavior? That doesn’t need to be any less directed. We need to know that when you’re coming into the program, and Craig said it directly, I was the guy that thought Fred was crazy for doing that kind of stuff when I first started coaching.

I was all about trying to get a guy in regardless of where the motivation came from. But much like Craig has spoken, we’ve worked with far too many men that don’t finish out the work because they joined for a reason besides themselves. So what does that mean? They joined the program because their wife, because of discovery or an exposure was made by this spouse significant other and their mindset says, well, in order to keep my home I now need to do this. And guess what happened? Unfortunately they leave. I’m talking to you guys as a divorced man right now. I was separated when I went through the Mindful Habit Program wasn’t divorced. As a matter of fact, I was part of the conditions like, Hey listen, you do get the hell. They’ll make you think about bringing this union back together.

And the reality is that me and my ex wife grew together closer in multiple ways. We probably have a better relationship today than we did being married. The guys were not married. We’re simply not married. My children are spread out. I’m lucky that I had one of my kids with me. My daughter’s on the other side of the country. My oldest son is at the bottom of Florida right now in bottom side of the country. So for me to make the statement that says, I’m going through recovery to keep my family together, that’s not the idea behind this because the reality is men is that your recovery can’t control anybody else’s destination. If they’re going to make that choice, they are going to make that choice. We tell people all the time that we cannot guarantee you will be a better husband because we don’t know what that’s gonna look like and we can’t guarantee going to be a better father because we don’t know what that’s going to look like, Oh you can’t get into that, but are you focusing on you and being a better person? Then you can begin to affect some change that you want to have in your life. You cannot be unselfish in your recovery.

Craig Perra:
No, and and as we tell people, George knows this is, we want you to be good selfish. That’s the truth. The truth is that if you want to be successful, you’ve got to want it for you. And when you want it for you, that opens up a whole bunch of doors that weren’t there when you were doing it for someone else. And that resentment is building. So that should bomb is your recovery needs to be selfishly about you and must be about you. There’s no new relationship. If there’s no you. That’s the truth. Let’s take it to the next lie brother.

George Morning:
The next lie is that all I have to do is change the habit. I want the echo for you guys. All I have to do is change the habit. A lot of you all are watching right now saying, teach me how to stop this one thing so that my life becomes better.

Craig Perra:
If I stop watching porn. Just going to stop going on massage pilot. If I could only stop watching porn and and going to massage parlors, I’m going to be okay.

George Morning:
And you’re not going to stop the Craigslist. So stop and seeking out prostitutes or stop with this. Then my life all of a sudden becomes better guys. And you know what again, sorry to tell you that’s a lie. And here’s why that’s a lie is because your one habit has had a rippling effect throughout your life. Your habit impacted your career, your finances, your emotional, your mental and physical health. It impacted your hobbies and then impacted your relationships. And for a lot of us out here, it impacted our spirituality. So what that really means is that the has it impacted what your life, so this isn’t about changing your habit, this is about changing your life style.

It’s not about being able to take out for them, but you still talk shitty to your partner. This isn’t about getting rid of sex, but you still got an unhealthy diet about stopping this. I mean, think about it, man. If you got a $1,200 a month habit around pornography and around sex and prostitution, if you took that one habit and plucked it out and now you got to deal with the reality that you got a better manager money cause you got an extra 1,200 bucks, what do you want to do with it? How does that look? You’re going to have extra amount of time on your hands to use it in a more constructive place. What does that look like now for your relationships, for your career, for your hobbies, for your spirituality? Getting rid of this habit also means that we’re going to have to break some shame balls down.

So when you do that, then how does that impact your emotional health? Has it impact your mental health? How does that impact these other areas around you? You have to stop thinking that all I gotta do is get rid of the habit. That’s like saying I can eat all the fatty foods I want as long as I decided to take my butt to the gym. No health practitioner or gym coach or trainer will ever say that’s the key they going to say, listen, the reality is, as much as you think you got to come to the gym, your nutrition is also going to play a huge part in this. Your mindset going into workouts on playgroups, part of this, your circle that you have around you, your relationships are going to play a tremendous part in this. It is not about plucking out the habit and moving on with your life. This is about making a decision to not just change a habit but your lifestyle.

Craig Perra:
Beautiful George, and just a comment on that as I always do, you know me guys, I’ve got to comment on everything. To break a habit, you have to make a habit. So, so I want you to think of your behavior as the symptom. And this is true for so many of you men who found me from doing incredible work for so long in your 12 step world and such a wonderful place. Such a place of healing. And my concern is that it keeps the symptom at the center. And when someone comes to me and says that they are a porn addict or they are a sex addict, let’s unpack that for a second. That means that they have low self control. That means they have low self awareness. Don’t know why they do what they do. Do not have clarity on what their needs are and don’t know how to get them met in a healthy, constructive way. They lack empathy. They have an incredible ability to compartmentalize. Oh yeah. And their sexuality is unhealthy and they’re lacking purpose. So by you stopping the behavior, that’s a great step. I’m proud of you and I applaud you. It is only a teeny tiny fraction of the opportunity that the crisis that brought you here provides for you and that is the change your life. Awesome truth George. Thank you so much. Let’s go. What’s next?

George Morning:
Number three. And I’m still hitting home for a lot of the men who are thinking about this change, you may have started to change. The lie, recovery is a destination to reach. Think about that recovery as a destination to reach a lot of people. We see people almost every day, Craig, they’re coming to our program and their mindset is that once I’ve finished the program, then my recovery is complete. Now once I make it through this coursework, they almost treat recovery like it’s a degree program. Like you just somehow went to college or the night school right now and it’s like as long as I show up, I’m going to end up with this degree in the end and I can hang this up on my wall and move on to the next part of my life. Men, I’m here to tell you right now that is an absolute bold face lie that we tell ourselves to minimize the work that we have to do in recovery.

Here’s the reality. The reality is that recovery is a journey. It is not a destination. It is a journey and I say that in several ways. We’re talking to you guys. This is the porn sex addiction channel looking at right now, but I work with men who deal with the dishes and other areas of their life and guess what recovery is it continual on going process and you want to know why? Because the life changes. Plain and simple men. Well, you’re triggered by today what you think is the worst thing that you have to overcome today. You’re going to be met, with, guaranteed, I want to repeat this guarantee. You are going to have another traumatic or intense trigger that will hit you somewhere down the line simply because your life has shifted. If you’re a parent right now and you’ve got a toddler at home, you’ve got triggers with a toddler, wait til that guy goes off to school and you’ve got triggers there. Wait till they get a job. They start driving out of the house. Wait til your wife is going into the stage of her life. Different triggers. Guys. You have to understand this world is about the triggers that are driving your behavior. For you to think there’s going to be a destination where you can put your life on cruise control and no longer have to be mindful of how the triggers are attacking your body, attacking your thoughts and your mind. It is a complete boldface lie that you are telling yourself to minimize your recovery efforts.

Craig Perra:
Yeah. Self-serving commercial break. Ladies and gentlemen, the entire Mindful Habit System is designed to teach you how to, I’ll say it a few different ways, to counterbalance your crazy, to make new habits, to proactively manage your powerful sexual energy, recognizing that you will get triggered, you will fail, you will get triggered in ways that you haven’t even imagined yet and you’re going to experience the pain and low. I wish everyone listening to this audio, I wish that you have already experienced your worst pain and your greatest loss, but that ain’t true. And I don’t want to be a buzzkill. I like to deal in reality. Excellent, excellent, excellent truth. It is a journey. And listen back to that lifestyle change. One of our clients asked me on a group coaching call, how do I stay motivated in recovery?

And here’s what I said. And I went on a little bit of a mini rant here and I said, stop calling it recovery. Recovery is fucking boring. Create a great life for yourself. Find purpose, unleash the dragon. You know find yourself, be your best self. You know, on a rigorous self care, rooted in self love and so there’s, there’s a status quo that exists in my world. There’s a circle of complacency around I’m sober and in my program, whenever anybody declares whatever length of time they’re sober, I don’t care if it was 30 minutes or 30 days or years, they must be followed with why. Why have you been successful? And that’s the part that gets lost. And that’s what keeps people stuck in recovery waiting to get to this end because everybody who was failed, here’s where I’m going to leave you guys until we move on to the next one. Every single man that has failed, every single one stopped doing the things that made them successful. Think about that. Every single one, so this is about not stopping doing the things that make you successful. Take George, let’s give us the next one.

George Morning:
All right guys, the lie, the world in life will adjust to your recovery. Isn’t that such a wonderful thought there man? Because I made the decision for me to get better. The entire world and all of my life is now going to change so that my recovery is somehow is what? Easier. It’s less hard. My wife is going to talk to me nice. My kids are now going to respect me and not going all crazy through the home. Sounds like such a wonderful thought. Sounds like an absolute lie.

We just talked before the call started, both me and Craig, we have both been nicotine smokers in our past and Craig, I’m pretty sure you like me, particularly having a wife and kids at home, you had had that moment where he was like, okay, I’m going to quit smoking today and the moment we decide to quit smoking, we feel the entire world just with ape shit. It’s like at the moment I decided to quit smoking. My kids want to go crazy in the house. The moment I decided with smokey, my wife wants to have an argument with me or have discussion with me. The moment I decided quit smoking, I got the asshole boss. Why can’t you guys understand I’m trying to quit smoking? That’s not the deal.

Life still goals. The world still spins. Season’s still happening. The people around you don’t get the memo that says, hey, because you decided to finally echo that real quick. Finally decide to seek recovery. Then all of a sudden the world now shifts or you’re on your spin now. So when you decide to stop spending to deal with recovery, you’re thinking the entire world will somehow stop spinning. Man. That’s not the truth. The truth is that the world doesn’t stop or wait for your recovery. I need you all to understand that and hear that. How many times have you been in the fetal position? Because of shame. Because of guilt. Because of discoveries. Because of exposures and you want to bury your head in the damn sand like an ostrich and guess what? You get out that sand. You get out the fetal position. You decide to reengage in life. Well guess what? Life never stopped. The wife still had to get up and get the kids to school. The job still had the move on.

I remember being in being in such a bad state that I did the exact same thing. I got up after about a week, going back to my job. My job says, you must be here to pick up your last check. I said, no need to find on my hours are you don’t have a job new anymore. What do you mean I don’t have a job anymore? I was going through something. Well, number one, you didn’t communicate what she was going through. And number two, that’s you going through it. We still have a business. Life, believe it or not, it’s a business. That’s why it can seem cold and calculated. Sometimes it can seem uncaring and unfeeling about it sometimes because the light still goes about the business of life, the trees outside beating, stop growing. The sales we have don’t stop moving. But because you made a decision, you’re thinking that because it will be easier if everything shut down when you shut down. That’s not what happens to me. Nothing stops and waits for you during your recovery.

Craig Perra:
Yeah. Thank you George. And the piece that I like to add to that is, here’s a lens that I want you to have or that I encourage you to have as you navigate your journey in challenges. You know, however you manage whatever crisis, whatever challenge you’re going through right now, however you manage this one is how you’re gonna manage the next one. So let’s do the reverse instead of, I’m going to do it right next time. Instead of, you know what? Fuck it this time, whatever. But next time, next time I’m gonna You know do the things I know I’m supposed to do because I think I deserve it. And whatever.

Think about it this way. Every field of self-help has some concept around whether it’s the four noble truths in Buddhism, whether it’s the, the oft quoted phrase from the military, Embrace the suck. You will be challenged. You will experience failures and losses and how you navigate them is ultimately the success that you’re going to have. Forgot about whether or not you’re jerking off and watching pixels. I’m talking about in life.

George Morning:
That’s it. Alright. It’s been this bad boy hole me last, but definitely not the least. What is the line that recovery is a team sport. I want you to really hear that for a minute. That recovery is a team sport. Guys let’s be honest right now, I don’t care if you’re looking at a billboard in the subway or a sign somewhere or a commercial advertisement about recovery. It looks fucking beautiful. It looks beautiful though. Like you see people, you see sunny skies, you see people all around helping somebody. You can get all of this support that’s happening right now. The lie that’s in that is that it’s a team sport as if everybody combined around you is what’s going to help you get the win. Here’s the real deal, man. Recovery. Is it individual sport, mast as a team sport. So if you got to put it in real context right now, make about tennis, think about golf, think about wrestling.

That’s my personal sport of preference. The real wrestling, like collegiate wrestling, not WWE guys and what are we seeing those things. Ultimately it’s one person that has to swing the racket, swing the golf club or make the pin. It doesn’t matter if that person has the world’s best trainers, the best athletes, statisticians behind them. They got all the research, the marketing guys behind them. They still got to go out and make the play. They got to serve it right. They got to do the right, but they got to get the right movement because the same thing with recovery. I tell my guys all the time. The reality is this, we’ve given you a forum. We’ve given you a great platform. You have opportunities to engage in us. One Oh one is dynamic, but if you went home and you decided to relapse, guess what happens to me? Nothing.

I’m not going to relapse it because you relapsed. That’s you. So it’s good to think about this great team, but at the end of the day it’s still want to come back to you. You go home and decide to relapse. What does that mean for the middle of the goal? Nothing basically exactly where they were. What does that mean for the forum? Like you started to relapse and in the forum breakdown, then our platform goes away. No it doesn’t. We’re just part of the of the pieces for you, you were were were really nothing more than a well Titan bolt in the engine of your car. That’s really about it. At the end of the day, you got to drive that bad boy. We don’t give the driving instructions and none of that kind of stuff. This is you behind the wheel. We’re trying to help you operate the vehicle better, this vehicle that you have of your life. But if you decide while driving, no matter how tight the bolts are, no matter how gas, though, no matter how well the oil is changed, if you decide to run your car off a cliff, that don’t mean nothing about the mechanics. You don’t come back to the mechanic, you don’t come back to the dealership. It doesn’t come back to where you went and got the great white wall tires. It goes back to the driver who said I’m done driving. I drove off a cliff.

The driver fell asleep so he got an accident. The driver wasn’t mindful and didn’t see the other car coming and you had yet. This is what recovery is, man. You can’t fall asleep behind the wheel and recovery cause you got to drive. You can’t afford to not be mindful thinking that this car is going to automatically go right now and trust me, recovery is not a Tesla. It is not something you could flip a switch and say, now you do the driving. For me while I take a quick nap cause everything seems nice and safe. It ain’t like that. Your recovery is like driving the 1970s Pinto, one wrong move and you’re going to blow up plain and simple. You’re the one that’s behind this wheel drive.

Craig Perra:
You know what I like about this is, and there’s a part of me in the background saying, wait, wait, wait. The power of groups and teams are incredible. And, you know, just knowing how powerful we’ve seen our community rally around a guy who’s who stumbled, but all true. And you know what George said, at the end of the day, it’s you managing, let me borrow a quote from one of my favorite modalities. You’re the CEO of your internal family system. All right. That’s how I like to encourage you guys to think about your life. You’ve got all these parts. Forget about the parts outside of you, just the parts inside of you. And those parts need to be proactively managed. In fact, I teach and say repeatedly, there’s no success. Let me tell you, Scott didn’t tell you, tell you a story.

Someone recently shared. This happens all the time. Someone’s shared, when I was young, I touched my brother. When I was young, I had a sexual experience with the neighbor and oh my God, when somebody shares that, the feelings of the levity that it provides. You may not have that, but you think about maybe you realize something about your childhood that had a massive impact. Like that’s so important and it, and it is such a necessary step. It is a prerequisite. It is. It is a must do step. But, it’s only a step. And what I call those moments and oh my God, I remember this thing that happened. It was so terrible that was so impactful in my life. It feels like that awareness, it’s going to give to me the gift of never acting out again. And it doesn’t work like that. Why not? Because you’re a bad person. Because we’re creatures of habit.

And I call those big moments that many of you have had in therapy and counseling on your own reading in the program, fireworks. Woo. They’re big and powerful. You got tears coming down your face. You’ve never connected with that part of you. And it’s so big and so powerful and so beautiful. But it fades really, really fast because that act alone isn’t enough to back to what we talked about before, interrupting counter balancing the habits and belief systems that grew from your lifetime of experience in response to that event. So you proactively managing these wounded parts that have a tendency to lie, to compartmentalize the shutdown, to get angry, to act out sexually, that’s success.

George Morning:
You touched on so many great points with that man. And again, I want to be very clear about this. You said it in the beginning of your response. Look, we have the amount of support that our men get from our community. I want to jump up there and just say it is unheard of. I don’t know of a better group of men that come together around such sensitive issues in materials to hear the type of struggles that our men are going through on a consistent daily basis. And when I’m in share these things in their final wishes is to being open enough to break through the shame to discuss these things. We circle around them like almost like that scene out of fast and furious. Like it’s like everybody’s coming his way.

But again, when the call is over and you leave the group, it’s you that still has to carry out everything that you just got. You know, it’s almost like, you know, we have this saying sometime that you just can’t be hype on Tuesday from the Sunday sermon. Particularly, if you don’t remember what the Sunday sermon was. So what does that mean? You going to church, you hooping, hollered, you get caught up in the excitement and the energy that’s there. You don’t even know what’s really happening and you feel so great walking out at church and then once it comes around and there’s no church family around you and you’re trying to remember what the heck you were just was so excited about when now you’re faced with your life on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and before you know it, you’re in the space where you’re like, I just got to make it to Sunday.

And you are like on borrowed time until then. And no, that’s not what that process is about either. We know that that’s not how this recovery game works in any aspect. So it’s not about how great we are, just not so in this totality about how great we are and coming around you and giving you that energy, to continue in the midst of such a dramatic moment. It’s about how you take that and then carry it and you learn to utilize it, manipulate it, let it work for you over the course of time because that’s where real recovery comes in. And let me tell you right now, let’s call it what it is. This is where you start putting on your big boy pants, but this is the way to be honest right now about some things. There’s a lot of areas in your past that you can pinpoint to say that your trauma was a team sport.

I experienced the trauma because of mom, dad, rather babysitter, school bully, whatever the situation is, cool, we can give you that, but the reality is the recovery, your mommy and daddy, may never owned up to it. Brother and sister, may never owned up to it. The bully may always be a bully. What brought you that trauma may never cut to the point of saying, I’m sorry for bringing you trauma. Hey, guess what? Now individual. Now it’s just about you and you get got to own that coming in to this. You seeking recovery is not about making somebody else seek amends with you. You think you would cover this because you decided that you know what? Despite what others may have done to you and your past, you are making the sole decision for yourself to be in a better space, to live your best life, to live life to the absolute fullest.

Craig Perra:
I could not have said it better myself. Thank you so much George. So amazingly proud of the community and, and, and I’m so proud of me. I’m so proud of George. I’m so proud of the amazing work these guys are doing. George there is a couple of different ways that people can get in touch with you. Please tell us how.

George Morning:
Number one, listen, I’m a vocal guys you all into right? So pick up the phone, 443-609-1169, shoot me a text. Give me a call. My personal lines saying that my mama called me on number two, shoot me an email. Maybe you’re not ready for the actual phone call. Shoot me an email, email me at [email protected] Now for those of you guys who are in some space of taking some action, number one, I’ll start off with the gift.

I have a gift each and every one of you guys watching right now. There’s a link below where you can get a free copy of my book, of my journey and going through my porn addictions and being able to come out on the other side. All of what it did to plays your, what were some of the key lessons I learned through my own recovery, but book is called Habit Land, Your Entry, Your Residency and Your Exits. There’s a link at the bottom. You will receive a free copy of my book. The only thing you’re going to be accountable for is just going to be shipping and handling, just shipping and handling. You guys get a free book. First step of action guys. Number two, you’re also going to see a link that will directly connect you guys to our Mindful Habit Platform. If you’re really ready to make that change, guys, and I know a lot of you off doing this podcast, you’re listening right now, you’re in that space of making the change. Click the link below. Get access to us right now given the on boarding calls, given the group calls, get involved with community that is changing men’s lives globally. I wouldn’t believe I wasn’t a party. We change men’s lives globally.

Craig Perra:
Yeah, man it is. It is, it’s awesome. It awesome to be on the phone with a guy in a rack to be on a phone with a brother from Pakistan. Like it guys. It’s amazing. It’s such an unbelievable community. And if you want George you know, to have your back, to have his support, to have you, you know, in that voice in your head then please reach out to him. You can reach out to me through the website. You don’t have to wait, but thank you so, so much for listening. It means so much to me that you guys are getting value. I’ve got an exciting you know, podcast a schedule coming up and I’m really excited to, to go into 2020 and to blow up in a really specific deliberate way some truths just like we did today and drill down into some of these issues. One of them being the behavior is the symptom and we’re going to talk about that in a few weeks. In terms of what that really means really means. So thank you. On behalf of the entire Mindful Habit Team, George, Adrian, me and Sandy and of course my beautiful wife, Michelle. Embrace your power of choice. Happy Valentine’s day because it’s Valentine’s day when we recorded this. Love yourself. Peace. Bye everybody.

George Morning:
Later brothers.

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